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Since the Kumburgaz videos was posted and i read a lot of crap that has been debunked from day one i wonder if people is aware of the entire story: here it goes;


This case developed in the location of Kumburgaz between the years 2007, 2008, and 2009. Its main witness was a night guard named Yalcin Yalman, who while on duty registered video of strange objects that appeared at sunrise like floating or changing while in flight over the sea on the coast of Marmara. Yalman was able to film many video segments, some during the day accompanied by witnesses with whom he spoke to while he was filming.

Note: (This analysis has to do with the Turkey UFO video. The objects were spotted over the sea near Turkey between 2007 and 2009 and witnessed by local residents).

One singularity of this case was that the images were made with a camera that had an adapter for close ups of 200X optical, achieving a great amount of detail of the objects.

At first, the videos were analyzed and made public by the SIRIUS UFO organization, directed by the researcher Haktan Akdogan. This case made big news in Turkey and in other countries as well. It also started a great debate between the official members of the Turkish scientific community. Specifically the NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR THE STUDY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (TUBITAK) got interested in analyzing the original footage, with the intention of determining that the video was nothing more than a hoax, gambling on the idea of scale models, toys, or CGI.

The original tape was handed to the TUBITAK representatives on live TV in their own headquarters. Once the analysis was concluded, they gave an official report from which we took the following fragment:

“The objects observed on the images have a structure made of a specific material and are definitely not any kind of CGI animation or in any means a type of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for video effects. So the conclusion of this report is that the observations are not a model, marquette, or a fraud” and the last part of the report, “it’s concluded that the objects observed have a physical structure and are made of materials that don’t belong to any category of (airplanes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, artificial lights, Chinese lanterns, etc.) and that it mostly fits in the category of UFO’s (Unidentified Flying Objects and of unknown origin)”.

Other analysis was done by video specialist, image edition and special effect companies from Japan, Russia, and Turkey, all ending up with the same conclusions. In Chile, I asked professor José Atenas to technically examine the videos, an expert in graphics and video with more than 30 years of experience on television. In his appreciation, José Atenas also came to the same conclusions that the images are authentic.

So far nobody has been able to demonstrate that the recordings are product of tricks or some type of manipulation. Therefore, the debate has concentrated more over the nature and origin of the objects filmed by Yalcin Yalman.

Here the link to the full dissection of the videos frame by frame:

If i may, please stop thinking with our human inside the box thinking and try to claim this hoax with comments like :

“why they are always visible on the same spot for years?” – Ask the Aliens

“The zoom in and out is odd the apperture bla bla bla must be fake” – either you can prove the entire video is fake even the beings or don’t even start trying to explain somethings that you may find strange.

“The creatures don’t move” – yes they do and very fast

“Is an object against a dark whatsoever” – no is not

I remind you that Lou Elizondo said in a talk that there are compelling true videos circulating the internet which people think is fake and some you see the occupants, i don’t know if he is referring to this one but could very well be.

I understand that people is skeptical and it is ok, but i think is a mistake to apply human reasoning to something we know less than nothing about.

What i found special about those videos and make them more compelling is the fact that it has lots of hidden information only visible on slowing down the speed abd going frame by frame like the Mantis being and a 4th being which look human abd that the beings seem to be working on, maybe abduction? I don’t know use your imagination.

But to think you fake something like this and the best details are only visible on the frame by frame? Naaahhhh

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