There seems to be two divergent ideas in the public realm:
The acknowledgement of UAP, and that it is worth studying (AATIP, AARO, etc.). Not much more is known. The acknowledgement of UAP, and that we have in our physical possession interdimensional or extraterrestrial craft that is currently being studied. Furthermore, these craft defy all current understandings of materials science, propulsion, and even physics itself. We have not been able to reverse engineer any of it. Some craft are the size of islands. Some cannot be moved. Some are underwater, and still functional. Some are larger on the inside than they are on the outside. There are biologics recovered. There are organisms/beings that have been interacted with. Of maybe multiple species. And on top of all this, there has been a decades’ long SUCCESSFUL effort to suppress this information. Of the likely THOUSANDS of individuals over decades who have had contact or adjacency to such projects, absolutely none have leaked substantive or verifiable evidence.
^Each of these two ideas have their own proponents. The second includes known, longstanding grifters in the UAP/UFO spaces — those who publish information by edging the public in shocking statements made on low-impact interviews or in the form of cable TV-styled documentaries.
In the intelligence world where Grusch comes from, raw conversational data (HUMINT) often takes on incredibly salacious forms. This is a natural part of collection, and requires major legwork afterward to filter out what’s real and what isn’t. Often, this raw data is a victim of the “game of telephone” or even bad actors who benefit from the insertion of false information (ahem insider grifters). It is absolutely not a flaw on him or his work to have collected and to report on all the information he received. It IS however a flaw on us to believe it wholeheartedly. The Steele dossier has previously been one such glimpse into this world.
Taking Grusch purely on his claims, he has aligned himself (moreso of late) with this second cohort of grifters. He has edged and slow-rolled his first-hand knowledge in strangely polarized interviews and unprofessional forums (Joe Rogan, random youtubers, and even a wallstreet gala?). Even an op-ed at this point feels incredibly underwhelming. Surely, there are better ways to release credible information while adhering to national security laws — somewhere between The Pentagon Papers and Snowden. NONE of his witnesses have claimed anything NEAR as salacious as he has. And his most credible allies (Mellon, Gallaudet, etc.) dance around acknowledging anything beyond idea 1) above.
On the other hand, something amazing is happening: the US Government has acknowledged the existence of UAP. It has furthermore established an office that, without much leading data, is attempting to characterize these airspace intrusions. This is a historic, unprecedented, and long- sought-after event among this community. A few years ago, the NYT article was a world-changing bombshell among believers.
Today, this acknowledgement and the very existence of AARO are all disinformation bEcAuSe tHeY wOnT aDmIt mOrE.
Do we not see the forum-sliding/ideological hijacking effect that’s been going on here?
We know the speed at which the US Government moves. But to call their acknowledgement now a malicious cover-up, I’d say is completely counterproductive to the community’s own goals of disclosure by creating increasingly polarizing views on UAP — half of which can be accused of being conspiracy-theorist.
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