Karl Nell Interview transcript is remarkable when you step back and read it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bfg2_D8xr3TSg2mhTnetE5M-I1HnO1YYI4mNABIU-dA/edit?usp=sharing

Submission Statement:
The transcript of Karl Nells 20 minute interview is even more rich with meaning, when you step back and read it slowly. This was a very well staged+performed delivery of a heavily scripted+rehearsed interview. No rambling anywhere, and yet it summarises 70 years of UFO discourse

Ive pasted the transcript into a Google Doc and formatted/highlighted it for clarity. It is a remarkable Interview.