What if I told you a story : there is a mysterious creature named Santa, and there are multiple witnesses reporting seeing him flying around, and there are supposedly pictures of him flying around and the government knows about it, but they are covering it up. Oh, and also Santa has a huge sledge, which has crashed and the government has covertly retrieved it, but sledge is so big that it cannot be moved, so the government had to build a building around it. Oh, and Santa can supposedly visit every person on earth during a single night, so he is probably inter-dimensional too.
I am not arguing that the UAP phenomenon is not real mind you.
I am asking you what makes you believe people like Coulthart, Grusch, Elizondo, Knapp, Corbell, Nolan, Graves, Mellon, Stratton, Puthoff, Davis, DeLonge etc.? The way I try to look at it, they are the ones that make extreme claims, so it would seem logical, that the burden of proof should be on them. Yet we, regular people, have not received any proof – any at all. All we get is stories. Stories about running Pentagon UAP programs, stories about huge crashed UFO’s, about interdimensional aliens – basically the whole X-Files lore is true according to those people.
But where is the evidence? Not verbal evidence, not “trus me bro, I got told by credible people” evidence, but tangible, irrefutable evidence, that is made public and can be checked and independently verified by anyone? Or do you believe that “everybody is covering it up”?
Why do you believe that Grusch really has 40 first hand witnesses? What proof you have of this? He is making the claims, he should provide evidence. I for one do not believe that he has any witnesses and guess what – I am being proved right every day, because we do not see any of the 40 witnesses.
Why do you believe that Coulthart knows about the location of the downed UFO “so big it couldn’t be moved”? Also, how does it make sense in your head for Coulthart to say that “I know where it is but I will never tell it to you”? What kind of a journalist does this? If you have information that you cannot reveal, why do you hype everybody up in the first place?
Why do you believe that Elizondo ran a Pentagon UAP program, when all evidence shows to the contrary? Also, how can you believe a guy who claims that he has remote viewing powers? Also, he, Mellon and DeLonge promised TTSA investors that they will build a spaceship – really, you believe that? Or you just choose parts of the story which suit your narrative and believe that?
Do you really believe all the crazy shit that apparently is happening in Skinwalker Ranch? Or you choose to ignore all the cigarette smoking dogs, Dino-beavers and other crazy stuff, but you believe the same people when they talk to you about crashed ufos and retrieval programs? If you can ignore one story but believe another, what is your reasoning? How can you make yourself believe that they lie you about some events, but tell the truth about the others?
Probably everybody on this sub knows the famous Plato’s allegory “The Cave”, which Pasulka constantly brings up.. At the moment, it feels like all these people (Coulthart, Grusch, Elizondo, Knapp, Corbell, Nolan, Graves, Mellon, Stratton, Puthoff, Davis, DeLonge etc.) and people who believe in them are the ones in the cave, and as soon as you start questioning stuff, they make you sound like crazy and retreat further down into the cave, where they can be comforted by amazing, unbelievable fairy tales, told by their “disclosure heroes”.. They do not want to ask any hard questions. They do not want to see the outside of the cave.
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