Why would Karl Nell cite Paul Hellyer and Haim Eshed as credible sources of evidence if Hellyer asserted there are aliens on Venus & Eshed claimed that humans are already on Mars (as per the Wikipedia page for each). Might Nell be a disinfo agent?

In reference to this part of the interview:
https://youtu.be/w9cIcWWsH0c?si=qh8721gfXI59ELPY&t=224

Which of these options seem to be the most likely?

Karl Nell is a stooge. Last minute fill-in for Grusch; poorly researched hypeworthy claims

Karl Nell is a disinfo agent. Karl Nell knew Eshed & Hellyer made these dubious claims & intentionally cited them so that his claims would be easily dismissed under scrutiny.

Karl Nell is the real deal. Wikipedia is wrong; Hellyer and Eshed never made those claims

Karl Nell is the real deal. Wikipedia is right. There really are aliens on Venus & astronauts on Mars (sorry, Elon)

Given the theatrics of a conference setting and the void left by Grusch’s scheduling conflict, my guess is #1: They brought in Nell to deliver 20 minutes of shock & awe. Nevermind logical soundness or source vetting.

Then again, #2 wouldn’t surprise me either. It’s also possible that 50% of Hellyer & Eshed’s claims are accurate. The same could be said about people named Dr. Steve.

Would also be nice if this sub allowed polls…