Context

Last year Grusch testified before congress and was interviewed by journalists where he alleged the existence of a crash retrieval program which included a biologic component.

Yesterday we had a US Army Colonel (Karl Nell) allege that humans have been in contact with a high functioning NHI as well.

In both Nell and Grusch’s interviews they claim the reason this has not been disclosed is due to societal reaction – this post will explain to you in layman terms what those are. By the end of this post I hope you will be able to understand the significant challenge these societal concerns are. Whilst you may still desire Catastrophic Disclosure I strongly recommend we as a collective familiarize ourselves with what that actually means.

In basic terms, what is society?

To keep the word count down and not bore everyone, this post will just focus on the things we care about from our point of view. Society is a nuanced collection of many things though, this post will ignore the philosophical, religious, spiritual and psychological ramifications of NHI/UAP disclosure. Instead it will focus on the model science and practical societal impacts. So with the focus just on the physical details; what is a society?

Society is an organization where people operate together (like a village) but the way we interact with each-other is under rules that are governed by a government. A government is a special group of people specifically tasked with outlining, developing and enforcing the rules of society. So for example, our government tell us that we need to pay using a currency to exchange things between each-other, that we need to earn this currency by doing jobs, that in order to pay for the participation in public services such as citizen administration and road maintenance we will pay taxes etc.

Outside of out government there’s also the concept of dominant global institutions which are types of facilities that society uses that aren’t the government. So we have a global institution for commerce (buying products and services) and we have global institutions for banking etc.

I like this analogy which explains well what a society is; when we wake up we wake up naked figuratively speaking. We’re just a human like Neo was when he woke up in the pod in the machine farm in the matrix. We’re just the body we own and the mind inside, nothing more or less. Then as we wake up more we start to remember our place in the world and society. I like to think of the basic human we are as “naked” and then as we remember that we are a “tax payer” then we put on the “socks” of being a tax payer. As we remember we’re contracted for a job we put on the “trousers” of being an employee. As we remember we pay rent or a mortgage we put on the “underpants” of paying rent. We remember that the government associates an ID with us, which allows us to visit other countries or get a driving license, this is our T shirt. By the time we’re fully woken up, we’ve significantly changed from the the “naked neo pure human” and now we’re fully clothed in various “clothes” which allow us to operate in society, to buy things, to gain access to education, to apply for loans, to use the roads and to travel.

Participating in society and getting all those benefits, require us to “wear the clothes” of that society. It’s all very well living in the mountains without an identity or name and living free as a raw human. But if you want a loan or a passport or some other service from society, you’ll need to be introduced to the system. It’s this societal system which is made up from the government and these global institutions.

Why is this society incompatible with UAP disclosure?

Society is delicate. For our government to work well, they need stability. Imagine a busy restaurant or food court. The staff at the food place will hire employees to manage the customers. Over time the managers will appreciate that certain days and hours are more busy so they will hire more employees on certain days and hours and have less staff during less busy times. However certain days such as public holidays they will hire not just more staff, but may make changes to the restaurant such as including signs or pathways to accommodate large queues. Government and institutions work like this; they expect society to act a certain way and if they’re good at their job they will anticipate (like a restaurant) certain patterns where they need to be reactive to busy periods or specific events.

When society is in a period of stability it allows the government and societal institutions to accommodate for busy/low periods and provide their services to people.

However, imagine suddenly that customers can come in from the kitchen, or that customers now are allowed to bring their dogs to a restaurant because of a new law, imagine that people are now only allowed to eat between 12 noon and 2pm. All of these changes will significantly impact the restaurants ability to feed the people. They will need to change to allow people to come in from the kitchen, they will need to make a safe way for them to navigate dangerous cooking equipment and not slow down the chefs. They will need to provide a way for dogs to use the bathroom and keep them from attacking each-other or jumping on tables. And lastly they will need to significantly scale their restaurant and staff to accommodate massive amounts of customers quickly within a 2 hour period instead of spreading them out over the day. All of these changes will impact the stability of customers and thus the restaurant will need to make drastic changes quickly. If the restaurant doesn’t flawlessly change in time, they will likely utterly fail to accommodate the new changes and may end up closing down or worse, some dangerous event may happen like a kitchen fire or dog fight hurting people and then having to pay out legal expenses to people suing them and going bankrupt.

Our government and societal institutions are similar. They only operate with a society which has stability, a predictable society which follows certain patterns and rules. The design of the government services and institutions in our society are like the restaurant; they wont be able to handle sudden changes well. This is because ultimately these things run at a monetary cost; so to be efficient with the money they’re given; they will use the funds to facilitate the normal patterns to society. It doesn’t make sense for a restaurant to buy many dog beds or hundreds of short notice staff if they don’t need to.

If tomorrow UAP technology was disclosed and people had access to things like free energy, freedom of cheap flight, inter-dimensional travel, significant leaps in material science. In the same way that allowing dogs, customers to come in from the kitchen back door, mandating customers need to all come within a two hour time frame etc will completely stress a restaurants ability to serve people. These technological developments will significantly stress society. Houses have locks, walls and fences, roads are built to manage and control land transportation, police cameras face downwards towards the ground, banks use vaults and cages, the border between mexico and the US is largely a land border with some sensors for uncharted sea/air vehicles. Dangerous premises or secure sites have walls and perimeters around the ground. With the existence of UAP technology, people can probably warp into bank safes, fly over border walls, infiltrate secure or dangerous areas, evade cameras or law enforcement vehicles/aircraft, get up to all kinds of mischief in the sea and in general be an absolute anomalous nuisance to any kind of sane governance.

These changes would instantly and drastically challenge the fundamental control apparatus and governance measures for society. Crime in particular would be significantly open to exploitation. If we consider the amount of harmful crime which takes place in the US on a daily basis, even with the existence of law enforcement with helicopters and armed officers etc. Not only that, but the types of weapons of mass destruction we know about now are limited to materials we can regulate such as nuclear materials or specialist components for things like rockets or bombs. In a world where free energy is open-sourced to the people; how can any reasonable sense of national security stop foreign adversaries come flying over in a lil ufo and dropping a ‘free energy bomb’ in the middle of New York City? By which mechanisms are we expected to know that such an operation might happen, by which vehicles or response unit are we expecting to intercept such a craft?

We might not like it; but the society you operate it, the one you put on your ‘clothes’ for; is completely incompatible with UAP technology being disclosed

You can complain it should be better, you can cry into your pillow and you can unfocused your eyes and look out your window in deep thought; but the truth won’t be any more true.

It’s not me telling you, it’s not the government deciding so; it’s a mathematical attribute of the models our global society run on. It’s an innate characteristic of the nature and architecture of our global models and society and how they combine to form our current ecosystem. So you can dislike it, you can impart blame on governments and the chronic design and operation of these imperfect global institutions but it wont change the answer. No sane government can even remotely consider UAP technology disclosure to the people.

Why can’t they disclose the existence of UAP/NHI but still keep us safe?

There’s a relatively simple science called Game Theory. If you know the game monopoly, it explains game theory very well. Game Theory is the science we use to describe how players in a game can make certain moves to get what they want and prevent the things they don’t want. For example if you’re with a group of friends and you’re making a group decision to do something and some people disagree or there’s not a consensus; the group will be engaging in game theory in how they try to convince others to go with their idea. Game theory happens when you want to pick a parking space during a busy time, it happens when there’s one last ripe avocado and there’s two hungry shoppers; it happens when you’re on a dating app, it happens when two companies want to buy another it happens when two dogs have only one treat between them.

In our social institutions and global society our models have us significantly employing a competitive game theory strategy; and indeed in nature many plants, ecosystems, environments of animals and things like insects all employ quite prominent competitive strategies. The first animals to develop horns or fangs or claws didn’t do it for the hell of it; they did it to win our over competition for dwindling food resources.

It’s no different to our social media profiles or dating profiles or linked in profiles or our physical appearance or our sense of style or our linkedin profiles or our net worth or our education or abilities. To do almost anything we need to compete with others. If you want to marry someone; there’s a likely chance you need to advertise yourself to your desired partner and stand out against competition. If you want a job you need to beat the competition in interviews, a promotion is the same, if you want a good value apartment or second hand car; you need to out bid or out maneuver other interest.

Competitive Game Theory has massively underpinned our physical evolution; our environment, our social and global institutions and continues to do so every day. It’s so prevalent that it basically controls our entire humanity.

The significance of this is; like in monopoly where if you decide not to own all the train stations or luxury hotels. Then someone else will do; and when it’s your turn to land on those slots you will end up losing. So competitive game theory teaches us, forces us to beat others even if we don’t want to. It encourages us to collect or own things above what we need. It’s one of the most problematic issues in our society and it’s ultimately heavily involved in why UAP technology isn’t compatible with us. Hence; the emergence of current state of rampant capitalism and it’s chronic impact on other global systems (such as equality or the environment) or even the amount of plastic in your organs.

If the US government came out tomorrow and said “we have been in contact with NHI, we have UAP technology including free energy but I’m afraid we can’t show you any of it or even give it out, we can’t do this because of this thing called game theory and the massive implications it would have and could quickly cause widespread chaos which will threaten the entire human society, so we will keep it secret and work with our NHI friends and other countries to build toward a future where we can harness this tech and thrive and rise to the challenge of Game theory, thanks for listening” – then that would be great right? Yeah for us in this sub it would be.

But Russia and China and every other country in the world will ask immediately: “Hold up who chose the US to be the trusted owner of this technology; your human rights and foreign/domestic reputation of clandestine operations is appalling, *we** should have this technology not you, you can’t be trusted, we demand you hand this over immediately or you can prepare for retaliation”. or… *”No one country should own this technology we should set up a task force from all walks of life to handle this” etc etc etc

Meanwhile the everyday people, such as those in abject poverty or those without access to energy or food. Those with parents or children who are dyeing and this technology would help, those who care about deforestation and the perils of fossil fuels or those who lost loved ones to aviation accidents. All these people will rightly ask why they can’t benefit from technology that will impact their lives and prevent issues. They will ask for justification on why only the elite few can access the tech. It would cause rioting and civil unrest, it would shake the foundations of society. By no sense of sane imagination could the people expect any level of trust in a government which has harbored the kind of history the US has, especially if they’ve lied about an almost century long conspiracy of UAP tech or NHI contact; lied and killed and threatened and manipulated to keep such a secret.

Whatever would transpire; even just admitting we have the tech would cause significant de-stability and unrest. It would threaten the human species. They’ve run simulations and models, they know very well what kind of impact this news would have; on their adversaries like China and Russia, on their own people on humanity.

The LHC (Large Hadron Collider) is a particle collider where scientists run experiments. The experiment reaction takes seconds. But to sieve through and sort and analyze and understand the results and publish papers explaining the observation can take up to several years.

A change of this magnitude, one which quickly identifies the fundamental error in our global systems and institutions, one which challenges and outlines the problems of human nature and one which mandates a severe cause for concern for our species survival is no fucking joke. It’s a heavy and nuanced piece of analysis and would take any organization in the world a long time to reconcile. So disclosure, done properly and responsibly will take a long time too and the bills we see and the wording which includes a panel with economists, anthropology, sociologists etc is an indication these things I am rambling about are being taken very seriously by government.

Conclusion

Today we discussed some of the concerns which govern why society is ultimately incompatible with UAP technology. We also explored that even if we just acknowledged UAP’s and NHI that it’s still a problematic concern which quickly leads to de-stability in our society and with the delicate balance of global powers.

We explored that issue and problems are fundamental and aren’t easily solved. I personally don’t mean to convert everyone into “anti-disclosure” (and I am not) but I do personally desire to help inform people that disclosure isn’t a magic world-wide-spiritual-awakening that frees us immediately into spirit realm or unlocks a utopian society. It’s a gritty and severely dangerous paradigm we need to navigate carefully. We should respect the majesty of the issue staring us down. I have a great deal more to say on this below, if you enjoyed this thread please consider looking at this other material; including my answer to the problem.

If you disagreed or want to challenge these points please absolutely feel free to do so I would love nothing more than to discuss this further with others, especially those able to do so respectfully – let’s flesh out the details together and challenge the argument that disclosure is problematic!

An alternative to Catastrophic/Official disclosure; a Pragmatic one

How changing our perception can help bring forward Disclosure

Ideas on most progressive steps for this community

You and UAP’s can be the biggest catalyst for change in humanities history.

Introduction to woo

Dispelling the ‘existential shock’

(Answers everything, long read only recommended for passionate people who also don’t hate the writing style in this thread) Why there was a coverup, why disclosure is hard, what’s significant about “now” and what those who feel lost can do.