Like a few of us here, I watched Ross Coulthart’s new Reality Check live, as I’ve been doing since its inception.
I thought it might be best to start with end of the presentation.
Ross ends by saying that he’s involved with the Australian Non-Human Intelligence Research Institute, the first organization of its kind in the Australasian region.
The Institute is being funded by the generous support of neuroscientist and businessman, Dr. Anton Uvarov.
According to Ross:
“We plan to fund collaborative scientific research projects into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. And we are very interested in funding generously collaborations with scientists worldwide.
We’re already working with Dr. Beatriz Villaroel who’s already working who is also presenting at the conference (and who is also part of SOL and presented at their conference) to assist her superb research into astronomical transients.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNP8ypUbDM&t=6s
Another planned project is the construction of absolutely state-of-the-art observation stations that will be placed in UAP hotspots. These will be mobile, using absolutely best-case, top-of-the-line technology. We hope they will collect extensive data on UAP.”
Today’s video was his presentation at the SCU, the Scientific Coalition for UFOs, in Huntsville, AL, following this speech at Contact in the Desert this past week. He was the keynote speaker for the SCU Conference. These events were held back-to-back, and at both, Coulthart made very clear that if anything were to happen to him, he had journalists around the world ready to publish everything he has. If anyone here still wants to call him a grifter, GFY. As detailed in his speech here, he’s won many accolades for his journalism over the years in Australia reporting for 60 Minutes and 7 News, the largest broadcast network in the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCPbavls0U&t=4956s
I remember when this was announced, as Huntsville is a very interesting choice for this conference. Huntsville is one of the biggest hubs in the US for aerospace companies, namely Boeing, something the city prides itself on, and it also has massive contracts with NASA.
https://www.madeinalabama.com/2023/06/boeings-alabama-operation-writes-new-chapters-in-innovation/
My new friend u/lastofthefinest was among those on here to point out that both Amy Eskridge and Dr. Ning Li, who were working on anti-gravity tech and UAP research in Huntsville, both turned up dead. These names and their stories are very familiar on this sub, and I think holding this conference in Huntsville with Coulthart as the keynote speaker was a definite shot to the bow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1abtxk6/i_believe_dr_amy_eskridge_a_uap_researcher_that/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1acn6uf/amy_eskridge_huntsville_al_ls_society_anti/
Handdrawn spaceship design done by 15 year old Werner Von Braun at the U.S Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14ywlb0/handdrawn_spaceship_design_done_by_15_year_old/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16ni3zj/unraveling_the_bizarre_trail_of_antigravity/
US Space Command wanted to move their facility to Huntsville but were denied. Mike Rogers, one the known members who helped gut the UAPDA, was actively pushing for this.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/27/space-command-alabama-00133200
I know there’s a lot more to dig into regarding Huntsville and its history of UAP research and defense contractors, but let’s stop there for now.
Ross’s comments that stuck out to me as I was listening earlier. I’m sure I missed plenty.
Ross brought up the Echelon Agreement, a surveillance system between the US and UK updated in 1998 when that technology was taking off. Here’s the Wikipedia page which could be changed at any time, the history goes back further:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
Here’s a link to the European Parliament’s statement on the program:
Summary
During the second half of the 1990s press and media reports revealed the existence of the Echelon network. This system for intercepting private and economic communications was developed and managed by the states that had signed the UKUSA and was characterised by its powers and the range of communications targeted: surveillance was directed against not only military organisations and installations but also governments, international organisations and companies throughout the world.
This study recounts the uncovering of the network, notably through the STOA investigations, questions by MEPs, debates in plenary, the setting up of a temporary committee and the final position adopted by the European Parliament. It also takes account of statements by researchers and journalists on the technical aspects and legal implications of the Echelon network. Finally, it considers the views of the political groups in the European Parliament and of the Commission and Council.
Fifteen years after the events, The Echelon Affair draws on the European Parliament’s archives to describe and analyse a worldwide scandal which had an impact on the history of Parliament and which today is echoed in the revelations of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and in other cases of spying on a grand scale.
Something else Ross brought up is that the GAO, the US Government Accountability Office, has stated that the Pentagon has failed its audit starting in 1981. That’s the year President Ronald Reagon and VP George H. W. Bush took office. Reagan was narrowly elected after an agreement for Iran to return US hostages after he took office. Trump is trying to do the same right now with Russia with Wall Street Journal journalist. Here’s a Chris Hayes piece tonight about that. It’s literally the same fucking move.
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1798512620334391737
Bush has a history of both UFO/UAP recovery and oil wars. I’ll piece this together later, but his name keeps coming up thanks to u/36_39_42 and u/harry_is-white_hot delving into the Magenta ’33 crash recovery. His family’s bank funded the Nazis. That’s for later. But I think I think Ross mentioned 1981 on purpose.
Here’s a statement on Bernie Sanders’s website just weeks after Grusch’s interview with Ross (and I just saw earlier that Grusch’s first closed-door interview with Congress was June 12, 2021, which led to AARO, which means the Pentagon’s in real caught in another trap here):
NEWS: Sanders, Grassley and Colleagues Make Bipartisan Push to Audit the Pentagon and End Wasteful Spending
June 21, 2023
Last year, the DOD failed its fifth audit and was unable to account for over half of its assets, which are in excess of $3.1 trillion, or roughly 78 percent of the entire federal government.
WASHINGTON, June 21 – As the recent debt ceiling deal increased military spending to $886 billion for fiscal year 2024, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), along with Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Mike Braun (R-Ind.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), and Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), today introduced legislation that would require the Department of Defense (DOD) to finally pass a full, independent audit in fiscal year 2024. If enacted, the Audit the Pentagon Act of 2023 would require any DOD component that fails to complete a clean audit opinion to return 1 percent of its budget to the Treasury for deficit reduction.
Ross talked about how the Air Force was pushing an anti-gravity program way back in 1956. Here’s the Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_gravity_control_propulsion_research
United States gravity control propulsion research
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
American interest in “gravity control propulsion research” intensified during the early 1950s. Literature from that period used the terms anti-gravity, anti-gravitation, baricentric, counterbary, electrogravitics (eGrav), G-projects, gravitics, gravity control, and gravity propulsion.1])2]) Their publicized goals were to discover and develop technologies and theories for the manipulation of gravity or gravity-like fields for propulsion.3]) Although general relativity theory appeared to prohibit anti-gravity propulsion, several programs were funded to develop it through gravitation research from 1955 to 1974. The names of many contributors to general relativity and those of the golden age of general relativity have appeared among documents about the institutions that had served as the theoretical research components of those programs.4])5])6]) Since its emergence in the 1950s, the existence of the related gravity control propulsion research has not been a subject of controversy for aerospace writers, critics, and conspiracy theory advocates alike, but their rationale, effectiveness, and longevity have been the objects of contested views.United States gravity control propulsion research.
Evidence of existence
Mainstream newspapers, popular magazines, technical journals, and declassified papers reported the existence of the gravity control propulsion research. For example, the title of the March 1956 Aero Digest article about the intensified interest was “Anti-gravity Booming.” A. V. Cleaver made the following statement about the programs in his article:
What are the facts, insofar as they are publicly known, or (as at this date) knowable? Well, they seem to amount to this: The Americans have decided to look into the old science-fictional dream of gravity control, or “anti-gravity,” to investigate, both theoretically and (if possible) practically the fundamental nature of gravitational fields and their relationship to electromagnetic and other phenomena – and someone (unknown to the present writer) has apparently decided to call all this study by the high-sounding name of “electro-gravitics.” Unknown, too – at least unannounced – is the name of agency or individual who decided to encourage, stimulate, or sponsor this effort, also in just what way it is being done. However, that the effort is in progress there can be little doubt, and, of course, it is entirely to be welcomed.7])
The gravitics programs had not been evinced by any technological artifacts, such as the Project Pluto Tory IIA, the world’s first nuclear ramjet. Commemorative monuments by the Gravity Research Foundation have been the artifacts attesting to the early commitments to finding materials and methods to manipulate gravity. The endeavor had the resources and publicity of an initiative, but writers from that period did not describe them with that term. Gladych stated:
At least 14 United States universities and other research centers are hard at work cracking the gravity barrier. And backing the basic research with multi-million dollar secret projects is our aircraft industry.8])
The writings about the gravity control propulsion research effort had disclosed the “players” and resources while prudently withholding both the specific features of the research and the identity of its coordinating body. Publicized and telecasted conspiracy theory anecdotes have suggested much higher levels of success to the G-projects than mainstream science.
Ross then says that because of the Echelon project and what he knows about the surveillance of phones, he wrote over 160 hand-written letters to, if I remember correctly, former aerospace employees and university professors from the time who’d gone quiet.
He references the 1953 CIA Robertson Panel’s push the debunk the UFO subject entirely.
He talks about Wilbert Smith, head of Project Magnet. Here’s the Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Magnet_(UFO))
Project Magnet (UFO)
Project Magnet was an unidentified flying object (UFO) study programme established by Transport Canada in December 1950 under the direction of Wilbert Brockhouse Smith, senior radio engineer for Transport Canada’s Broadcast and Measurements Section. It was formally active until mid-1954 and informally active (without government funding) until Smith’s death in 1962. Smith eventually concluded that UFOs were probably extraterrestrial in origin and likely operated by manipulation of magnetism.
History
Smith made a request to use the facilities of the Department of Transport to study UFOs. The project was formally approved on December 2, 1950, with the intention to collect data about UFOs and apply any recovered data to practical engineering and technology. The ultimate goal of the project was to apply any findings on the subject of geomagnetism to the possibility of exploiting Earth’s magnetic field as a source of propulsion for vehicles. Smith and his colleagues in government believed that UFOs, if real, might hold the key to this new source of power. A small-scale undertaking, the project used DOT facilities, with some assistance from personnel at the Defence Research Board (DRB) and the National Research Council). In June 1952 Smith issued a preliminary report arguing that UFOs likely came from intelligent, extraterrestrial sources and almost certainly manipulated magnetism for flight. A 1953 report reiterated these conclusions. Also in April 1952 the Canadian government established Project Second Storey, a parallel UFO research project, with Smith also involved. It consisted of a group of scientists and military officers who met periodically to consider the UFO question and to recommend government action. Smith reported to Second Storey on some of Project Magnet’s findings and conclusions.1])#cite_note-Library_and_Archives_of_Canada-1)
Smith believed UFOs were linked to psychic phenomena 2])#citenote-Denzler2003-2) and believed himself to be in contact with extraterrestrial beings who communicated to him through telepathy.[3])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Magnet(UFO)#citenote-Clark2000-3) Smith wrote a number of articles for Topside, the publication of the Ottawa New Sciences Club which he founded, outlining the philosophy of the “Space Brothers” with whom he claimed to be in contact.[4])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Magnet(UFO)#citenote-Craig1995-4) The articles were later collected and published posthumously in 1969 under the title The Boys from Topside.[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Magnet(UFO)#cite_note-Smith1969-5)
Smith then tracked down physicist Robert Sarbacher in 1950.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-government10.htm
Robert Sarbacher Confirms UFO Crash
A remarkable interview occurred in Washington, D.C., on September 15, 1950, but the content did not leak out until the early 1980s, when Canadian ufologist Arthur Bray found a memo by one of the participants, radio engineer Wilbert B. Smith of Canada’s Department of Transport. The memo described a conversation with physicist Robert I. Sarbacher, a consultant with the U.S. Department of Defense Research and Development Board (RDB), at one of the regular meetings Sarbacher and other government scientists conducted with their Canadian counterparts.
Asked about the crash rumors, Sarbacher said they were “substantially correct.” He said UFOs “exist. . . . We have not been able to duplicate their performance. . . . All we know is, we didn’t make them, and it’s pretty certain they didn’t originate on the Earth.” The issue was so sensitive that “it is classified two points higher even than the H-bomb. In fact it is the most highly classified subject in the U.S. government at the present time.” Sarbacher refused to say more.
Smith, who died in 1961, mounted a small, short-lived UFO investigation, Project Magnet, for his government. Through official channels he tried unsuccessfully to learn more than Sarbacher’s cryptic remarks had revealed. After the memo surfaced, ufologists found a listing for Sarbacher in Who’s Who in America, citing his impressive scientific, business, and educational credentials.
When interviewed, Sarbacher said he had not personally participated in the UFO project, though he knew those who had, including RDB head Vannevar Bush, John von Neumann, and J. Robert Oppenheimer — three of America’s top scientists in the 1940s and 1950s. He had read documents related to the project and on occasion had been invited to participate in Air Force briefings.
“There were reports that instruments or people operating these machines were also of very light weight, sufficient to withstand the tremendous deceleration and acceleration associated with their machinery,” Sarbacher told an inquirer in 1983. “I remember in talking with some of the people at the office that I got the impression these ‘aliens’ were constructed like certain insects we have observed on Earth, wherein because of the low mass the inertial forces involved in operating of these instruments would be quite low. I still do not know why the high order of classification has been given and why the denial of the existence of these devices.” Sarbacher could not recall where the crashes had taken place, but he did remember hearing of “extremely light and very tough” materials recovered from them.
Sarbacher’s story never varied, and he resisted the temptation to elaborate or speculate. All who interviewed him were impressed. Still, his story could not be verified, since the persons he named were all dead. Sarbacher himself died in the summer of 1986.
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And Smith said that Sarbacher outed Vannevar Bush, the first scientific advisor to the President under the Manhattan Project.
There’s lots to dig up on this sub about Bush and Oak Ridge Laboratory, which is were Sean Kirkpatrick now works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1atdypo/the_leaked_mj12_documents_which_stated_the_names/
Ross says that he was given the names of key Canadian scientists to look into who have been working with US scientists.
He brings up how physicist Thomas Townsend Brown, who I posted about recently, and which I did not know, was the first head of NICAP, and wanted to go public about UFOs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1csdviz/100_years_ago_an_american_inventor_named_thomas/
At the time, people stopped reporting UFOs to the Air Force out of frustration because they weren’t taking them seriously, just like today with AARO.
Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the first director of the CIA, tried blowing the whistle on UFOs a year after he left office. This video’s pretty famous around here now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MbGYAv7Cg
Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter was the third Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and first Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (May 1947 – October 1950). After retiring from the CIA in 1950, Hillenkoetter warned J. Edgar Hoover of Agency’s “corruption”: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/aug/29/Hillenkoetter-hoover/
After his CIA post, he resumed active duty and was eventually promoted to Vice Admiral in 1956. His final post was Inspector General of the Navy, finally retiring on May, 01 1957, after which he served on the Board of Governors for the civilian National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena from 1957 until 1962.
He then talks about an Australian AF photographer whisked away in secret, and unbeknownst by the Australian AF, by the US AF to fully photograph a crashed UFO in a jungle, who was then forced to develop his film in front of the AF folks, after which the film was confiscated. This means there’s no Chain of Command and plausible deniability. Who would this photographer have reported to? Who would have believed him?
During the rebuilding of Kuwait following the American invasion of Iraq, an Australian office was set up that was bugged by the UK so that the UK could beat them in their efforts to reverse-engineer crash-recoveries. Now making more sense that the “UFO too big to move” had the US Embassy built over it in 2006/2007.
Talks of a crash-retrieval in Europe and a secret Cold War between US, Russia, and China over downed craft that is still ongoing
My biggest takeaway, the fact that we’re still shooting them down, like over Alaska in early 2023, is a moral stain on First Contact
After all the letters he wrote, he started getting responses flooding in. He emphasizes his need to protect sources. But one source did allow him to use his name, as he was dying of cancer: Nat Kobitz.
Kobitz was the Chief R&D officer, Research and Development, for the US Navy:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nat-kobitz-38874478/
https://memorials.sollevinson.com/nat-kobitz/4600662/obit.php?&printable=true
Here’s Nat Kobitz in a 1993 Navy memo included on the Defense Technical Information Center website:
According to Ross, Kobitz was read into the crash-retrieval program following multiple NHI crashes to help reverse-engineer them. At one point, he was flown to Wright-Patterson and taken underground to a crashed craft bulkhead, and he told Ross that the skin and bulkhead were crafted in a way that defied human science. That they were composites, bonded at an atomic level, and suspected it was NHI tech. He felt that US citizens had a right to know, and that’s why he was coming forward in his last days.
Those letters Ross was getting were from people who knew Kobitz and had encouraged him to get in touch with Ross about The Program.
Ross says that people had been threatened they’d be killed if they ever talked about it, and some possibly have been. Lines up with Ross’s statements about his information coming forward if anything happens and Lue Elizondo’s recent tweet about how he has no intention of harming himself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1ct05y0/lue_elizondos_statement_from_the_good_trouble_show/
Ross ends by saying that he’s involved with the Australian Non-Human Intelligence Research Institute, the first organization of its kind in the Australasian region.
The Institute is being funded by the generous support of neuroscientist and businessman, Dr. Anton Uvarov.
According to Ross:
“We plan to fund collaborative scientific research projects into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. And we are very interested in funding generously collaborations with scientists worldwide.
We’re already working with Dr. Beatriz Villaroel who’s already working who is also presenting at the conference (and who is also part of SOL and presented at their conference) to assist her superb research into astronomical transients.
Another planned project is the construction of absolutely state-of-the-art observation stations that will be placed in UAP hotspots. These will be mobile, using absolutely best-case, top-of-the-line technology. We hope they will collect extensive data on UAP.”
NHIR’s Mission Statement:
NHIR Institute – Our Mission Statement
To advance science: To encourage, support, progress and advance the scientific study of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena that is linked to non-human intelligence.
To foster collaboration: To facilitate collaboration with credentialed scientists, with aligned values, to conduct rigorous empirically driven research into the phenomenon.
To encourage innovation: To encourage innovative approaches to non-human intelligence research and to tackle the issues and challenges arising from such research. The collective goal of the NHIR Institute’s team and the credentialed scientists we collaborate with is that our research findings will contribute to the development of key solutions for the current and future challenges facing our planet.
To educate: To share our research findings and provide an informed scientific basis to educate the public as well as key decision makers. In encouraging reasoned, logical, and inclusive discussion, the Institute aims to help remove the stigma and taboo that currently exists around discussion relating to the phenomenon.
To advance policies: To draw on our research findings to advise and work with policymakers, key decision-makers and regulators to contribute to sound, inclusive and socially responsible policy making.
To promote and grow a cross-border approach to policy making: NHIR Institute will initiate a plan to form a cross border Interparliamentary Alliance to contribute to policy making which better serves and protects the world we live in.
To advance ethical and responsible practice: To advocate for ethical and socially responsible practices in non-human intelligence research. While NHIR Institute supports public disclosure about the phenomenon from governments, most importantly for its critical research value, we emphasise that we respect the need to protect national and global security.
To provide support and advice: To provide support and advice to governmental bodies, research organisations and private enterprise in the advancement of non-human intelligence research with rigorously tested and reviewed data driven scientific research. Part of this support will see NHIR Institute sponsoring events which are aligned with our purpose of advancing science and policies relating to the phenomenon.
To foster transparency: Within privacy law and other legal constraints, NHIR Institute pledge to increase transparency and encourage open discussion, supported by research, for the benefit of the wider public.
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