Disappointing Fresh Air interview about UAPs


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I’ve been a fan of Terry Gross’ interviews on the Fresh Air (NPR) radio show for decades, but I was really disappointed with the Nov. 27 show, featuring author Garrett Graff.

Gross and Graff spent much of the interview snickering about the whole UAP topic. The thesis of Graff’s latest book is that the US government’s public reversal on what happened at Roswell gave rise to the modern conspiracy theory movement.

Graff said that the two reasons he doesn’t believe UAPs have extraterrestrial origins are:

Carl Sagan thought that “statistically, you would only expect aliens to come by every couple hundred thousand years,” so it’s unlikely that we’d see even one, much less at the frequency that they’re reported. However, later in the interview, Graff said that “… it could be that there are interstellar visitors passing through our solar system, you know, every day, every week, every month, every year, and we just don’t have the technology yet to notice.” Which is it? “You end up with this very humancentric view that any alien civilization would actually care about us in the first place. The most likely answer is that nobody knows that we are here and that nobody would care that we are a pretty young and immature civilization on a pretty ordinary planet in a pretty ordinary solar system….” So not only was Sagan an expert on extraterrestrial itineraries, but Graff somehow knows what extraterrestrials are interested in.

Instead of having a subject-matter expert on to discuss UAP evidence or recent developments like Grusch’s testimony and the Schumer-Rounds Disclosure Act, Gross interviewed an author giving his hunches. The show was especially disappointing because Fresh Air reaches a large mainstream audience that doesn’t pay much attention to this topic.

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