Someone with a deep understanding of UFOs please enlighten me on the following.


Presumably aircraft is traveling incredibly far distances to get to earth or under strange circumstances. Whether from the future, from our oceans, from another dimension, from another planet, etc.

Each scenario would result in a robust craft that can handle extreme conditions and uses technology, materials, and science far beyond our grasp.

These craft then are either shot down or mysteriously crash. The CIA knows about each one of them before anyone else does, retrieves the craft (whether broken or whole) using special forces, then transports them (somehow) to a designated base. For 80 years now they have been doing this.

Now keep in mind these are the same special forces that couldn’t even land a helicopter in Osama bin Laden’s courtyard and ended up having to be retrieved from Pakistan in the middle of the night.

This is the same military/special forces that have been unsuccessful in combating poor and otherwise underfunded militaries in the Middle East for the last 20 years.

These are the guys that are retrieving aircraft, that we would presume to be both large, and or incredibly dense. I know this sounds like a really large operation (it is) and has been carried out without anyone seeing, and no one speaking a word about it for the past 80 years.

Of course we have the occasional whistleblower, we have the Bob Lazars of the world, and we have a bunch of quacks that ramble on about UFO nonsense for publicity. I am unsure if any credible source from these operations, and or from these projects have ever come forward and mentioned anything at all related to retrieving craft, and or working on it with firsthand knowledge.

Please, someone explain to me how in the hell you could ever operate under these conditions and it be a secret for 80 years. This is even assuming that all of the information is 110% correct and the CIA is retrieving crafts. They are being thrown in hangers such as S4 and are being worked on by guys like Bob Lazar (with no degree). Let’s assume all of that is correct, someone tell me how special forces retrieve massive flying saucers that mysteriously fall from the sky, although they travel through dimensions A-OK. We simply attach a chain to the bottom of a helicopter, and carry the UFO across the continental United States, where we safely place it at area 51.

I am not a UFO expert, nor do I deny that they exist. It would be my assumption given what we have heard, what people have seen, and how the government acts towards UFOs they are 110% real. Where I’m skeptical is the idea of the US is either shooting these aircraft down or they magically fall out of the sky, they are 100% intact, the CIA and special forces go and pick them up, then there are top-secret programs, studying the propulsion systems and technology.

A much more likely scenario is that the US have only found parts of UFOs, but have been wildly unsuccessful in making any sense of them.

But please enlighten me on a scenario where this actually works and we have gained any usable knowledge from it. I know that there have been rumblings potentially about either Boeing or Lockheed Martin having access to such information. These are the same companies still buying their jet engines from Russia because they cannot make better ones themselves, but they somehow have access to other worldly technology found on UFOs.

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