According to Kissinger’s biographers Bernard and Marvin Kalb, after the war he transferred with the US Army Counter Intelligence Corps to the Hötzendorf Kaserne barracks in Oberammergau in 1946:
During the last years of World War II, many large underground facilities were being constructed across Germany in an effort to disperse production disrupted by the Allied bombing offensive.
In August 1943 the Army was ordered out of Barracks and the Messerschmitt Design Bureau, based in Augsburg, referred to as the ‘Upper Bavarian Research Institute’ for security reasons, moved in one month later. Under Project CERUSIT, a tunnel complex, approximately 150 by 90 meters, was dug into the base of the Laber mountain, adjacent to the barracks. The massive underground construction work was completed by approximately 500 volunteers and forced laborers, who were housed in the nearby “Rainenbichl” temporary barracks. The tunnel complex comprised workshops, duplicate document storage areas, test facilities, and air raid shelters, carved out of the soft limestone rock. A road tunnel complex called ‘Duck’, just north of Oberau on the road to Eschenlohe, was constructed as a logistics base.
Professor Willy Messerschmitt (1898 – 1978) was based in Oberammergau from November 1944, working on the development of the Messerschmitt P.1101 jet fighter. Willy Messerschmitt also controlled research facilities at Linderhof Castle, where the Enzian surface-to-air missile system was developed.
On 29 April 1945, when the P.1101 model was nearing completion, the US Army occupied the town of Oberammergau and discovered the Oberammergau complex. The prototype P.1101 and a ME-109 were found in Building 615 – now housing the Manfred Wörner Lecture Hall. Other experimental airframes were found in the gymnasium, Building 607.
After visits by military intelligence and technical exploitation teams almost the entire Messerschmitt underground production plant and the P.1101 prototype were shipped to the Bell Aircraft works in Ohio. One of the scientists that worked at the BMW aircraft propulsion factory in nearby Munich during the war was Waffen SS Captain Helmut von Zborowski, who claimed to have been working on atomic propulsion for the Nazis during the later part of the war. He was interrogated at Oberammergau (most likely by Kissinger himself) along with fellow Nazi rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Kurt Debus.
Von Zborowski was awarded a patent in 1952 for a nuclear reactor that uses deuterium oxide, otherwise known as heavy water. This propulsion unit appears to be of similar design to that described by the Twining “White Hot” report of Majestic Documents fame.
Fast forward to 1959, and the CIA Director of Counter Intelligence, James Angleton, suddenly has an interest in Helmut von Zborowski. He reaches out to the US Army Counterintelligence for a background trace of his history. Note Zborowski’s membership of “The Society For Interplanetary Research”:
For whatever reason, Angleton granted Zborowski a “provisional operational approval” as a CIA asset in November 1959.
So, what has this got to do with Kissinger?
It is further proof that Kissinger was aware of German “miracle weapons” that everyone was after at the end of World War 2 and was personally involved in the interrogation and debriefing of the Nazi rocket scientists. Oberammergau would have been the ideal place to run an attempted reverse engineering of a propulsion unit from a craft that had fallen into German hands (the Italian craft from Magenta or another).
Kissinger therefore learned very early on that the knowledge of the existence of the Alien Presence gave enormous power to those that possessed it – hence his meteoric rise in the military and diplomatic circles after the war. Returning home from Germany in the spring of 1947 but remaining with the Counter Intelligence Corps as a Reservist Officer with the rank of Captain, he soon found intense rivalry regarding the subject from within the fledgling intelligence services of the US Government. A special group was created within the Army’s Counter Intelligence Corps to accommodate the investigation of recovered objects – the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit, based out of Durango, Colorado. Although arriving at Roswell Army Air Field on the 5th of July 1947, they were prevented from accessing the recovered materials or EBEs by the guard force.
However, Kissingers’ interest in the subject continued into his political career, including his tenure as US Secretary of State. How do we know this? There is documented evidence.
On January 4, 1977, with just 16 days left in office, Kissinger sent the following telegram to the US Embassy in Ottawa, Canada:
(From u/blackvault)
Why would this be of interest to someone who only has days left in the office of Secretary of State? Because it is an attempt by Kissinger to gain knowledge of the event, and as discussed, knowledge is power. One other interesting thing here is the subject line: it clearly states “MOON DUST”. Would this not be a serious breach of security? The answer is NO – and in fact this is how the Standard Reporting Procedure for requesting MOON DUST material from 1961 states it should be done. Another clue that this is not the first time Kissinger has dealt with MOON DUST material:
Getting back to Zborowski – why was Angleton so interested in using him as a CIA asset? The reasons were twofold:
· Firstly, despite the successful integration of the Paperclip specialists and their success with the Atlas and Thor ballistic program, General Curtis LeMay was still pushing for a nuclear-powered bomber that could stay aloft for weeks at a time and deliver nuclear weapons to a target with just a few hours notice. Beginning in 1946, the Army Air Forces (AAF) first sponsored a study on the Nuclear Energy for Propulsion (NEPA) project. The effort progressed over the next several years after reviews by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). From this emerged the joint USAF-AEC Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion (ANP) program. Ten more years of studies were undertaken by governmental laboratories and industrial firms until the Kennedy administration canceled the effort in 1961 (which enraged LeMay).
· Secondly, the construction of an atomic weapon for the Israelis using Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) stolen from the NUMEC factory in 1957 was most likely underway in the CIA Annex in Frankfurt. In his Church Committee testimony, declassified in December 2022, Angleton admits to helping the Israelis “with certain nuclear technologies”. A similar project to perfect an atomic propulsion unit would be therefore best undertaken in this facility as well, far away from the prying eyes of the US Congress. Utilizing Zborowski at this facility would also be far easier than importing the former Dachau slave labor proprietor into the continental US.
Angleton’s choice to oversee the Israeli atomic weapon/propulsion program in West Germany was initially the first scientist recruited by the CIA – an Applied Physicist named David L. Christ, working for the Technical Services Section (which later became the Directorate of Science and Technology).
Angleton’s plans go awry in September 1960, when Dave Christ is arrested in Havana along with three other US spies. He is incarcerated for two and a half years, perhaps revealing under torture the details of the Israeli atomic weapons and, more importantly, the fact that the United States government had recovered craft in its possession that was “not of this world”.
Jn Christ’s place, Angleton sent fellow engineer and Christ’s protégé James McCord:
On 28th February 1962, the CIA Deputy Director of Plans Richard Helms, received an enquiry from the Air Force Chief of Intelligence regarding the CIA status of Helmut von Zborowski. The choice of Helms as the recipient of this Air Force request is interesting because at that time he oversees Area 51:
The response from Helms appears to be purposely made hard to read, but it seems to be addressed to “The Chief, USAFAFR” (could be related to Air Force Regulation 200-2 for reporting UFO sightings?). I’ve not been able to identify which unit this refers to, but the next line is very clear: “AFCIN”. This is the USAF Headquarters Chief of Intelligence. Why would the top-level USAF General commanding its intelligence collection activities be interested in Zborowski? The two letters after AFCIN are crucial to identifying the exact unit within AF HQ making the inquiry – it’s either “1E” or “1F”. If it’s the former, it means it is the 1127th Field Activities Group, which is tasked with the Foreign Material Program activities related to Projects BLUE FLY and MOON DUST. If it is the latter, it means that it is a PRIORITY AIR INTELLIGENCE REQUIREMENT.
As we saw in the MOON DUST reporting procedure, AFCIN had units spread around the globe, identified by a 2-letter alpha-numeric character. For example, the Air Technical Intelligence Center unit based at Wright-Patterson AFB had the designator “4A”. We know the 1127th had the “1E” designator from the Betz Memo:
The bottom line here appears to be this: there has been a considerable effort by various arms of the US government since World War 2 to try and replicate the technology it has acquired over the years, and it is evidenced by declassified documents. Although there was intense rivalry between USAF/ CIA/DIA/AEC for control of the UFO subject, at times they were forced to use the same resources in their reverse engineering efforts. Catching them out with declassified documents (as happened with MK/ULTRA) is a pathway to the truth, short of catastrophic disclosure. Kissinger was the final link to that era – to avoid him taking the stand and revealing who was involved, the US government has had a policy of denial. Former President Jimmy Carter was probably not in the loop when all this went on – the reports of him breaking down when given a limited briefing on the UFO subject were probably due to the revelation of the scale of treachery within USG departments and less to do with the fact of UFOs themselves. George H.W. Bush resigned as Director of Central Intelligence before Carter took office, be the House Select Committee was breathing down his neck trying to tie him to the JFK assassination – evidenced by the number of sticky notes with “Bush” written on them in Allen Dulles’s diary on the dates H.W. had visited the DCI’s office.
I’m sorry to say that most of the people within the US Congress are probably compromised anyway by the CIA – financial assistance on their initial election campaign, perhaps a trip or two to Little St James Island and they become a CIA asset and will do whatever they want when required. Congressman Tim Burchett has hinted at this scenario before – so unfortunately, no matter how many phone calls you make or letters you write to your elected representatives, it’s already a foregone conclusion. Catching them out with declassified documents is, I believe, the only way forward.
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