I have an ongoing problem with Avi’s paper in collaboration with Sean Kirkpatrick, re: Ukrainian observations.


I maintain that there was something fishy about the creation of this paper.

(1) Avi ignored his own assertion that you should look where things have been reported, saying this was a war zone that has too much potential noise. War zones are consistently part of UFO history.

(2) The Ukrainian study was conducted in a place and time when there was no fucking war. No artillery. No “noise”.

( 3) Avi talked a lot of game about using potential leads from the UFO research community, and then shit all over everyone by disregarding one of the main tennets of UFO lore; Sometimes they apparently do not displace air or water, and therefore do not create black body heating or sonic booms.

(4) Sean Kirkpatrick apparently knocks on Avi’s door one evening asking to collaborate on a paper, and this turd was pushed out in just a few days? Why??

(5) Avi made the argument “Why should I advocate for new physics when none has been proven to me?”

Nobody asked Avi to advocate for shit. He didn’t have to do anything, yet he chose to throw the UFO base under the bus for no reason, totally put of the blue. If he didnt like the evidence that was presented, he could have stuck it on that back burner or in the shelf, yet he went out of his way to put the Ukrainian study down publicly. Why??

(6) Worst of all, Avi broke scientific protocol by not providing any sort of mathematical refutation of the Ukrainian paper. His entire rant included exactly zero math. Only an extremely basic argument about UFO observations contradicting known physics and therefore being impossible. Zero technical corrections to the author’s assertions (which were in fact at least partially problematic). It’s as if he thought the paper so worthless that he didn’t consider any personal effort worthwhile. This would seem to contradict Avi’s previous MONUMENTAL EFFORT toward legitimizing the potentiality of UFO reality by way of MULTIPLE podcast and media appearances.

Seriously. Prior to this paper, Avi had repeatedly suggested there could be something to UFO lore, reported hotspots, potential surveillance methods, and the fact that “the sky is not classified “. And then out of the blue he choses to throw all that shit out the window.

My guess is he was co-opted into whatever Kirkpatrick’s original mission was. Probably some half-assed “discovery” that would have fallen into AARO’s original half-baked idea of fake disclosure.

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