[in-depth] Jason Sands is Legitimate


People need to stop attempting to discredit Jason Sands. The claims being made against him can an easily be addressed and dismissed. All it took to negatively turn the common perception of Sands was a few tweets from a few key figures who were so eager to quickly discredit him. It’s the same people who spend all their energy to go the extra mile to discredit whistleblowers trying to advance the UAP disclosure topic. People need to stop jumping on the “Jason Sands is a liar” bandwagon without attempting to look into the facts of the claims being made, and listening to the original Twitter stream for yourself. I’m willing to bet 95% of the people discrediting Sands are simply re-posting others’ headlines to bring him down without using their own judgement to make a conclusion.

For those of you discrediting Sands and spreading information to negatively sway the masses, you need to reevaluate yourselves. Put yourself in his shoes for a second. Think about what Jason must be going through right now after attempting to do something good for the UFO community. Tweet after tweet, thread after thread, comment after comment, all of you are impacting the mental well-being of Jason and forcing him to not pursue his movement as a whistleblower to push for government transparency on this Phenomena. This is a microcosm of just how toxic social media can be, and this is all you need to see to understand why so many people today suffer from depression and other mental illnesses. Think about the kind of tone and precedence this sets for any other potential whistleblower in the future. Why would anybody ever want to come forward in the public spotlight again after seeing the retaliation Jason has faced in less than 24 hours of coming out?

As a member of the Intelligence Community, I am here to vouch for Jason Sands in attempt to support his credibility and encourage you all to also show support for him.

Here are all the facts I can provide without breaking any US Government secrecy:

Jason Sands is indeed who he says he is. Jason is a current member of the Intelligence Community (meaning he is working for one of the Government Intelligence Agencies in a IC work-role related mission). Jason wishes to not disclose which particular agency he is supporting so I will not disclose that out of respect. Regardless, the agency he works for is irrelevant to his narrative as a whistleblower. His first-hand accounts as a whistleblower is not related to his current work role. As a member of the IC myself, I have seen Jason’s contributions on internal government systems and can vouch for the credibility of his identity.
Jason did serve 20 years in the US Air Force and retired as a Master Sergeant with numerous awards. This has been proven by Jason directly via his DD-214 uploaded to X. This is not a fake DD-214. It is very common for prior service members who were already supporting the IC i the military to transition to Contractor/ Government Employee roles for one of the US Intelligence Agencies. The reason for this is because the military will sponsor you for your security clearance if your MOS/AFSC/Rating is in the Cyber/Intelligence field. A Top Secret security clearance is required to work for most roles with Government Intelligence Agencies. In most cases, a Full Scope (lifestyle) Poly or a Counterintelligence Poly is also required – it depends on the work role and the agency. It is a much harder to get an agency to sponsor your security clearance if you don’t already hold one, as they can easily just hire a candidate who is already cleared. Nonetheless, Jason does hold up a lot more credibility than your average whistleblower considering that he has been vetted by his agency for over a decade, undergoing numerous polygraphs throughout his life.
Jason was a member and contributor of the “UAP Task Force Forum”. Note, this is not the official name of the forum and I will refrain from using its real name to not bring attention to it since it is a current tool used across all the IC agencies to collaborate. Its name is irrelevant to prove the point, and others who have referenced it by name in the past and divulged detailed information on content of the forum may have faced internal investigation by their respective intelligence agency. Nevertheless, the aforementioned forum is an internal forum that exists in internal classified government systems for members across the entire IC to collaborate on various topics, not limited to the UAP Task Force. As Jason said in the Twitter livestream, anyone in the IC can join.
Jason is not doing this for the clout or for to seek attention. Prior to Jason jumping on the Twitter Space stream where he ultimately came forward as a whistleblower, his name had been circulating around the web. Even prior to his name getting accidentally leaked on the James Fox tweet from months back, people were already spreading his story on small UAP podcasts. These people did not receive permission from Sands to speak of his story, and were merely doing it because they had seen Sands contributions in internal government systems. They were not spreading it to discredit Sands, but solely because of how incredible it was, and having the weight of credibility coming from someone in the IC. Nevertheless, rumors started spreading from this point forward, as all rumors do. I find it laughable that the rumor got to the point where the YouTube channel “VETTED” made claims that Jason killed the blue alien. Anyhow, there were at least 2 people who persistently kept jumping on different podcasts to tell Sands’ story without his consent. One of those people was on the same Twitter livestream that Jason came out on. In the livestream, the person who was telling his story was shocked to have seen Jason come forward, and even referenced a “heart to heart” conversation that Jason had with them prior, essentially apologizing for having shared his story before he was ready to come publicly for himself. Jason was originally going to follow the traditional route of a whistleblower by doing his initial public reveal via the James Fox documentary, and the only reason he decided to do it on the Twitter space was to stop inaccurate accounts of his story. Jason stated numerous times in the livestream that he wanted to put a stop to the inaccuracies and set the story straight, and had been wanting to so for a while, but was unable due to his pending DOPSR approval process.
Jason did testify to both AARO (under Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick’s leadership) and directly to Congress. I will refrain from providing more details since this topic may be sensitive information. However, anyone is welcome to FOIA the testimony he made to congress.

Now, to get into some of the headlines circulating around that are discrediting Sands:

“Jason admitting he was in the fictional 20 Year and Back program” – during the livestream, a viewer asked Jason if he had heard or worked on the “20 Year and Back” program. Jason responds by confirming he knows of it but he did not know it by that name, and doesn’t provide any further context. The two seem to be in agreement that they’re talking about the same program, when in reality no clear cut definition of what they are individually referring to is ever made. Later in the livestream, another viewer asks him about the 20 Year and Back program again to request more specific information about the program and what he did in it. Jason is hesitant to get into it and is heard having difficulty giving a clear response, ultimately saying something along the lines of “I’d rather not talk about the screwed up things they did but it’s a bad program”. If you all listened to the livestream, you can clearly deduce that the interviewers asking these questions and Jason did not have the same interpretation of “20 Year and Back” program. That is a very generic name for a program and could literally be interpreted to mean anything. Had the interviewer defined what the program was to Jason, then this would’ve been a whole different story. The “20 Year and Back” program that the interviewers were asking Jason is not the same program that Jason referring to.
“Jason said the fake CGI alien video is real” – Jason answered questions for 6 hours straight during the livestream, with questions ranging from his first-hand witness accounts to UFO Craze Fan Theories. Most of the questions asked were opinion based and not related to any of the insight knowledge of his work related to the US Government as a program insider. The Alien video was one of the many opinion-based questions that was asked, and had nothing to do whatsoever with his first-hand knowledge working as an insider. Jason would even preface most of his responses by saying “this is my opinion only, I am not an expert on this, but this is what I think…” So trying to interlink his affirmative response to this CGI alien video as a red flag is an invalid argument. Making a judgement on his credibility should focus on facts and his first-hand witness accounts, not opinions. Furthermore, it is a strong possibility that Jason was not been referring to the same video.
“Jason killed a blue alien” – this is a fake rumor being spread by YouTuber “VETTED” as addressed in my statements above. I am not certain where he got this information from, but it clearly did not come from Jason since he never once made that claim during the livestream. It appears that “VETTED” has now made a second video to address the confusion, but did not take accountability for spreading fake rumors. It is instances like these that feed into misinformation and need to be stopped immediately!
“Jason is already contradicting himself about not being a member of the UAP Task Force” – At one point, Jason said that he was a member of the UAP Task Force upon being interviewed by Steven Greenstreet, only to correct his statement in a tweet afterwards to say that he meant to say he was a member of the UAP Task Force FORUM. I think this was an honest mistake by Jason when being interviewed by Greenstreet because of the nerves, especially considering the reputation that Greenstreet holds for discrediting whistleblowers. I don’t think Jason said that with the intention to lie, but solely as his interpretation of what was being asked, mixed in with the nerves. As stated earlier, Jason was indeed a contributor of the “UAP Task Force forum”. For all intents and purposes, the initial UAP Task Force was heavily embedded in the forum and actively considered inputs from forum contributors’ for UAP Analysis. This was not the case once AARO was formed under Kirkpatrick, as AARO became more isolated as their own self-operating entity.
“Jason has a fake law firm website to scam people” – This website was obviously not created by Jason Sands himself but rather from somebody trying to discredit him. If you reference the domain records for the aforementioned website, you will notice the domain was created in April 2024. It makes zero sense why Jason would create a fake law-firm site around the same time he’d come out as a whistleblower. Jason has been around IC spaces and military for his entire career and likely makes a VERY good income (considering his years of experience and security clearance). There is absolutely zero motive for him to scam people when you have a stable well-paying career like that.
“A real whistleblower wouldn’t come out on Twitter spaces” – The reasoning for Jason coming out on X was already covered in the section above. In summary, Jason felt pressured to come out sooner than anticipated to clear his name from any bad rumors that were spreading from others’ recounting his story. Had it not been for these people, Jason would’ve followed the more traditional whistleblower path via a trusted journalist outlet or film producer (which he clearly already had in the works with James Fox). Also, there is big distinction between what most of the public’s perception of a “whistleblower” is and a legitimate government whistleblower following ICIG compliance. E.g. Edward Snowden is not a whistleblower! Snowden did not follow proper Government Whistleblower reporting guidelines set out by the Whistleblower Protection Act. It is never okay to leak government classified information to the public, and there are appropriate channels for members in the IC to report incidents through their agency’s organizational chain. The latter is the protocol that David Grusch executed and is the same path that Jason is following. If you listen to his livestream, Jason stated he got his DOPSR pre-publication approved in order to talk about the information that he got the okay on.
“I don’t trust someone who spam tweets at Elon Musk X accounts and is against COVID-19 vaccines” – Jason has his own personal life just as you all do and we all have our own interests and topics we follow, as well as political stances. People will scrutinize every little thing when you come out on the public spotlight, and nobody here could ever appeal to everyone if it was also judged for the world to see. His personal life activities have nothing to do with his first-hand accounts as a whistleblower, and it should not be judged in the same light.
“I’m waiting for James Fox to validate this guy” – This is a very valid statement and I understand why people would feel this way. Besides, I’m just some random Redditor claiming to be an IC member vouching for Jason. I really hold no merit at the end of the day, but a statement from James Fox and other journalists certainly would. However, the mere fact that James Fox has not made any statements to deny Jason Sands, certainly holds some merit as well – considering he was a viewer in the livestream himself. My belief is that Jason coming out on Twitter spaces opened up a big can of worms and just made the situation a whole lot more complicated for James Fox to address. Fox did not know Jason would be coming out on X, and neither did Jason himself. This may have disrupted some plans in the works for James’s film, but I am sure he will make a statement once everything is an order. Be patient. This is a journey, not a race.
“His story keeps changing and therefore cannot credible” – This is a false statement altogether. To all of you here, there has only ever been one story that Jason put out publicly – that is the claims he made directly himself during the Twitter livestream. Any other story that you may have heard is a rehash from others spreading rumors. Jason never changed his story once throughout the 6 hour livestream broadcast on X.
Twitter user Tim McMillan stating “Congressional and DoD sources determined this individual was not credible well over a year ago.” – I don’t know how truthful this statement is since it is not backed up by any sources, but giving it the benefit of the doubt – I wouldn’t be surprised if Jason was determined not credible by DoD. According to the official press release under Sean Kirkpatrick’s leadership of AARO – “there is no evidence of extraterrestrial activity “. With that statement, this would invalidate ALL accounts of every whistleblowers who testified to AARO, not only Jason. It is for this reason, that Jason and others alike have chosen alternative routes to push government transparency on the UFO subject.
“I don’t trust anyone who thinks Steven Greer is a good person” – There are a lot of reasons to not like Steven Greer, as most of can agree on (other redditors have already covered Greer’s misleading antics extensively so I won’t go over it here). In the livestream, an interviewer asked Jason for his thoughts on Greer and he responded with positive support for Greer. Jason revealed that he knows Greer at a personal level – something that none of us here are privy to. It’s one thing to characterize a person by their public persona and another thing to characterize them from a personal relationship level. It is an invalid argument to say Jason is not credible because he supports Greer – as he has a personal connection with him that only those close to Greer can accurately access.
“Jason is a liar because he used a fake name when coming out on the GUFON Panel Discussion video from 10 months ago” – This really doesn’t need much explaining, as you all can come to the same conclusion on your own. Jason was not ready at this point in time to come forward as a whistleblower, and he was merely just providing support for his friend, David Grusch, who was being put through the fire at the time. It is not uncommon to use a fake persona name to protect your real identity, especially when still working for the US Government within the IC. It’s the same reason you see alias names in articles mentioning US Government personnel who wish to not not be attributed.

Ultimately, what all of this social media backlash revealed is that twitter spaces is not a good format to come out as a whistleblower. Although not planned to come out in this manner, Jason engaged with you all because he believed he was doing good for the community and provided an extra layer of transparency for it’s loose controlled environment format. Had we all responded and handled the situation differently, this format could have been for the better. This would have played out much differently in favor of Jason Sands had he made his initial public reveal in the upcoming James Fox film, using the controlled interview environment among a respected journalist.

I cannot make any comments on the actual contents of Jason’s first-hand whistleblower accounts and his claims, I am solely here to vouch for the credibility of his identity and to encourage you all to reevaluate how we proceed forward when a new whistleblower enters the public spotlight.

Jason is really going through the fire right now, and I encourage you all to ease up a little and back off on making judgements based on others’ misleading takes. Jason Sands is human at the end of day and the last thing we want to do is put a blocker on a movement that can steer us in the right direction for UAP transparency within government channels. For those of you who participated in invalidating his character and discrediting him, shame on you.

** Disclaimer: This Reddit account was newly created as a persona account dedicated solely to make this subreddit post – as I do not want it attributed to my personal information ***)

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