Wow. What a wild couple of months it has been watching this play out. The initial frenzy, the backlash, the constant ping-ponging of debunks to rebunks to redebunks. The hours of blood sweat tears and burned for nearly encyclopedic levels of analyses and deep breakdowns for both sides. Witch hunts for the onslaught of shills, bots and Elgin AFB employees. Accusation’s of a moderator coverup. punjabi-batman being punjabi-batman. The rise and fall of a twitter “journalist” and even a big pot of gold for one to provide the source files. Many twists, turns, and loops on this rollercoaster, but the ride has finally ended and the dust has settled.
Despite rooting for the videos being real for the most part, I can’t say I am disappointed (nor surprised). The ride was fun, and despite a lot of turmoil and infighting, many users on here came together to put their nose to the grindstone to dig for the truth and that should be commended; even for those who were ultimately incorrect.
And I think that’s the only positive thing I can say about this because now looking in retrospect
the MH370 fiasco and it’s consequences have become a disaster for UFO discourse.
I think most of us can agree that these videos were pretty damn good. Real damn good. So damn good it took almost half a year and the collective manpower of users from reddit, twitter, 4chan and a bounty to finally kill off both videos for good. Assuming it wasn’t a government entity, the individual who made these took meticulous care, attention to detail, and research when making these. The citrix overlay on the satellite vid? Who would even think to take the time to add that? The video looked pretty compelling even without that detail but it gave it a much stronger aura of authenticity. This was by no means your typical “cgi saucer ufo through an airplane window” tiktok slop. This person had real talent and is likely working a high paying job in the VFX field.
So now that we know something like this exists, how can we possibly know if ANYTHING is authentic?
Let’s say hypothetically a few months from now a rogue whistleblower decides to go the catastrophic disclosure route and anonymously uploads a close up video of a craft stashed away in a Lockheed hangar, powered up and levitating. The video is high quality and is close enough you can make out the texture of the craft and where the lights are emitting. Reddit and twitter go into a frenzy.
But then the career deboonkers and shills crawl out of the woodwork and not so politely remind everyone that it doesn’t matter how high quality we think it is. We thought MH370 was real too, remember? It doesn’t how much research, deep dives, video analysis, frame comparisons, pixel counting anyone does, that was all done for MH370 also and it was fake the whole time. Not to mention we would also have to contend with AI entering the meta as well. Mick Wests job just got a whole lot easier. The MH370 videos are going to be a constant spectre in the backdrop of UFO discussion, and unless the r/AirlinerAbduction2014 fellas pull a rabbit out of a hat that somehow completely rebunk the cloud debunk, (I dont think they will) I don’t see any UFO evidence discourse recovering from this.
The MH370 beatings will continue until FUD improves.
For those of you in the ‘psyop’ camp, I may have found your motive.
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